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Gratulerer med nydelig ur @Loevhagen, som alltid en fornøyelse å lese dine betraktninger kombinert med dine herlige bilder
Hvor lettlest synes du datoen er sammenlignet med dine Rolexer?
En GS skal inn i boksen mon også, bare usikker på hvilken
Hvor lettlest synes du datoen er sammenlignet med dine Rolexer?
En GS skal inn i boksen mon også, bare usikker på hvilken
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Takk for det @allak - spent på hvilke GS-er du har på lista p.t.
Dato; Det at Rolex har en cyclops gir en viss forstørrelse siden datovinduet på Rolex er ganske lite. Se f. eks. på 16600 (Sea-Dweller). På de moderne Rolex (og aller siste 5-digit) så er det AR-coating under cyclops, slik at man unngår refleksjoner der. Det er det ikke på tidligere utgaver, så selv om cyclops er der, så vil refleksjoner i cyclops gi litt trøblete lesbarhet. Når det gjelder GS her, så er datovindu større og skrifttypen som er valgt er utformet slik at tallene fyller hele flaten - så lesbarheten på GS er her minst like god som Rolex. Min erfaring i alle fall.
Dato; Det at Rolex har en cyclops gir en viss forstørrelse siden datovinduet på Rolex er ganske lite. Se f. eks. på 16600 (Sea-Dweller). På de moderne Rolex (og aller siste 5-digit) så er det AR-coating under cyclops, slik at man unngår refleksjoner der. Det er det ikke på tidligere utgaver, så selv om cyclops er der, så vil refleksjoner i cyclops gi litt trøblete lesbarhet. Når det gjelder GS her, så er datovindu større og skrifttypen som er valgt er utformet slik at tallene fyller hele flaten - så lesbarheten på GS er her minst like god som Rolex. Min erfaring i alle fall.
Det er godt å se at det er flere som har fattet interessen for GS. Jeg falt helt pladask for min SBGK005 når jeg så den på nett for første gang i sommer og bestilte den øyeblikkelig. Sett bort fra min Tudor North Flag som jeg bruker i helgene når jeg er med ungene har alle andre klokkene mine vært i boksen siden jeg fikk GS`n.
Og en bilde fra noen som har litt bedre kamera enn meg:
Nå venter jeg bare på at GS skal lansere den «riktige» sportsmodellen. Så har jeg to å ta i rotasjon.
Og en bilde fra noen som har litt bedre kamera enn meg:
Nå venter jeg bare på at GS skal lansere den «riktige» sportsmodellen. Så har jeg to å ta i rotasjon.
“Why I Bought It (Despite The Strap And Buckle): Grand Seiko Blue Snowflake Reference SBGA407” via @watchville
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Why I Bought It (Despite The Strap And Buckle): Grand Seiko Blue Snowflake Reference SBGA407 - Quill & Pad
After a week on the wrist, Chris Malburg had some issues with Grand Seiko’s Blue Snowflake Reference SBGA407. Even so, he pulled the trigger. Here Chris explains how he fixed those issues and why it just might deserve a place in your collection too.
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Utdrag fra https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/03/grand-seiko-spring-drive-blue-snowflake-sbga407-review.html
Up Close: Grand Seiko Spring Drive “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407
Snowflake done classically.
One of the all-time best-selling Grand Seiko watches is the Spring Drive “Snowflake”, which gets the name from the its distinctive textured dial. And until recently, the snowflake dial was only available on models with bracelets, save for a few pricey limited editions with gold cases.
That changed last year when Grand Seiko debuted the Spring Drive “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407. It combines the famous dial with a more classical case, and a good deal of practicality – date, Spring Drive accuracy, and a surprising 100 m water resistance.
On the wrist
While most Grand Seiko watches are pretty discreet on the wrist, the “Blue Snowflake” makes a statement due to its colour. The styling is most definitely old school, but the pale-blue dial is both modern and unusual; it’s an unorthodox colour for a man’s watch, especially one that leans towards the dress-watch category, but it works.
And the “Blue Snowflake” is also a manageable but modern size. The case is a bit over 40 mm in diameter, and fairly thick, while the bezel is narrow. The result is a watch that wears well and has a good presence on the wrist (with one caveat that is common to Grand Seiko watches on straps: the band has odd proportions, with one side being unnecessarily long).
The snowflake story
The original “Snowflake” was the Grand Seiko Spring Drive ref. SBGA011 (now known as the SBGA211) that made its debut in 2005. While it did have a titanium case and bracelet, which was fairly uncommon at the time, the SBGA011 was pretty much a standard Grand Seiko Spring Drive, except for the dial.
Finished with a fine, vertically grained texture, the dial was meant to evoke the freshly fallen snow on the mountainous landscape during winters in Shiojiri, the small city in Nagano prefecture that’s home to the Shinshu Watch Studio (located within a Seiko-Epson facility) that produces Spring Drive watches. Even though the dial was brass, the variegated surface looked almost soft, like snow.
The impetus for the dial arose in 2004, the same year the very first Grand Seiko Spring Drive made its debut. With the snowy peaks around Shiojiri as inspiration, the development team combed the company archive for something that might work. And they found it in the oblong 56GS of 1971, which had a textured dial and case.
The 56G. Photo – Grand Seiko
With the vintage dial as a guide, the “snowflake” dial was born. It starts as a dial blank, essentially a brass disc, that’s stamped by a 200 tonne press, creating the distinctive texture. The next key step is plating it with a specific silver alloy that creates the white finish. And along the way the dial is also drilled, printed, and applied with hour markers, for a total of 80 steps from brass disc to finished dial.
Since then Grand Seiko has introduced several variants of the “Snowflake”, including one with gold markers and hands (SBGA259) as well as a variety of limited editions. Last year, Grand Seiko debuted the “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407, the first of the series on a strap instead of bracelet, and also the first one in a smaller, less sporty case, giving it a notably different look from its counterparts.
Icy blue
The new “Snowflake” is essentially a colour variant of the original, retaining the same gentle texture but now in a powder blue colour that stays faithful the original inspiration of snow-capped mountains. Achieved by varying the plating on the dial blank, the colour is a soothing shade that shows off the texture well.
Less stark than the bright-white, original “Snowflake” dial, this dial is an uncommon colour, especially in a man’s watch. Because of its strap and case design, the “Blue Snowflake” is more of a dress watch than the other “Snowflake” variants, but the dial colour has the opposite effect. On the wrist the watch looks and feels like a lively, contemporary watch.
The entire dial is elegant and subtle in design and details. Take the power reserve for instance: the indicator is faintly shaded so that the scale darkens towards the bottom where it indicates fully wound.
While the colour is fairly novel for a Grand Seiko, the quality of the dial is typical. Every element is sharply executed and finely finished, even under magnification. Both the hands and hour markers are machined with a diamond-tipped tool, resulting in precise edges and mirrored surfaces – a quintessential Grand Seiko feature.
The date window, on the other hand, is a less important detail that captures the thought that goes into the design, as well as the quality of manufacturing. It bevelled edges with contrasting surfaces – polished on the outer edge and sandblasted on the inner edge.
The two surface finishes are not merely for aesthetics; the matte inner edge is to avoid reflections around the date numeral, while the polished outer edge serves to highlight the window and make the date display stand out.
A classic case
Unlike the Grand Seiko “Thin Dress”, for instance, which has a newly-designed case, the “Blue Snowflake” relies on a classic Grand Seiko case style that’s been in the line-up for almost two decades, having first been used for automatic Grand Seiko models. Unlike the newer case designs that have fancier styling and varied surface finishing, this case is straightforward but does everything just right – and incorporates a few details that make it better.
The case is a moderate size, at a little over 40 mm in diameter, but most crucially, it is proportioned well. The lugs are just nice in length and size, while also having tapered bevels on the outer edges for a bit of refinement – this is the details that make it better.
Another thoughtful detail is the domed, “box-type” sapphire crystal that bestows a vintage air. But it is not a unique feature, since the “box-type” sapphire is standard for Grand Seiko watches with domed crystals, regardless of case style.
Note the slight bevels on the inner edges of the lugs as well
Concluding thoughts
The “Blue Snowflake” ticks all the boxes for an excellent, everyday watch, combing a robust case in a manageable size and reliable timekeeping thanks to Spring Drive. And it is a good-looking watch with a dial finish that’s unique to Grand Seiko.
In addition, the “Blue Snowflake” also ticks all of the boxes given my personal tastes in Grand Seiko. I have always like the snowflake-pattern dial, but with only a handful of exceptions, I prefer Grand Seiko watches on straps. And I’ve always liked this particular case style; it’s is a little old fashioned but that’s the appeal.
The only thing I’d wish for is a return to the old-style Grand Seiko dials, which had both the Seiko and Grand Seiko logos – a feature that provided more vertical balance to the face of the watch. But now that Grand Seiko is its own brand, so that’s an impossibility.
Up Close: Grand Seiko Spring Drive “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407
Snowflake done classically.
One of the all-time best-selling Grand Seiko watches is the Spring Drive “Snowflake”, which gets the name from the its distinctive textured dial. And until recently, the snowflake dial was only available on models with bracelets, save for a few pricey limited editions with gold cases.
That changed last year when Grand Seiko debuted the Spring Drive “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407. It combines the famous dial with a more classical case, and a good deal of practicality – date, Spring Drive accuracy, and a surprising 100 m water resistance.
On the wrist
While most Grand Seiko watches are pretty discreet on the wrist, the “Blue Snowflake” makes a statement due to its colour. The styling is most definitely old school, but the pale-blue dial is both modern and unusual; it’s an unorthodox colour for a man’s watch, especially one that leans towards the dress-watch category, but it works.
And the “Blue Snowflake” is also a manageable but modern size. The case is a bit over 40 mm in diameter, and fairly thick, while the bezel is narrow. The result is a watch that wears well and has a good presence on the wrist (with one caveat that is common to Grand Seiko watches on straps: the band has odd proportions, with one side being unnecessarily long).
The snowflake story
The original “Snowflake” was the Grand Seiko Spring Drive ref. SBGA011 (now known as the SBGA211) that made its debut in 2005. While it did have a titanium case and bracelet, which was fairly uncommon at the time, the SBGA011 was pretty much a standard Grand Seiko Spring Drive, except for the dial.
Finished with a fine, vertically grained texture, the dial was meant to evoke the freshly fallen snow on the mountainous landscape during winters in Shiojiri, the small city in Nagano prefecture that’s home to the Shinshu Watch Studio (located within a Seiko-Epson facility) that produces Spring Drive watches. Even though the dial was brass, the variegated surface looked almost soft, like snow.
The impetus for the dial arose in 2004, the same year the very first Grand Seiko Spring Drive made its debut. With the snowy peaks around Shiojiri as inspiration, the development team combed the company archive for something that might work. And they found it in the oblong 56GS of 1971, which had a textured dial and case.
The 56G. Photo – Grand Seiko
With the vintage dial as a guide, the “snowflake” dial was born. It starts as a dial blank, essentially a brass disc, that’s stamped by a 200 tonne press, creating the distinctive texture. The next key step is plating it with a specific silver alloy that creates the white finish. And along the way the dial is also drilled, printed, and applied with hour markers, for a total of 80 steps from brass disc to finished dial.
Since then Grand Seiko has introduced several variants of the “Snowflake”, including one with gold markers and hands (SBGA259) as well as a variety of limited editions. Last year, Grand Seiko debuted the “Blue Snowflake” SBGA407, the first of the series on a strap instead of bracelet, and also the first one in a smaller, less sporty case, giving it a notably different look from its counterparts.
Icy blue
The new “Snowflake” is essentially a colour variant of the original, retaining the same gentle texture but now in a powder blue colour that stays faithful the original inspiration of snow-capped mountains. Achieved by varying the plating on the dial blank, the colour is a soothing shade that shows off the texture well.
Less stark than the bright-white, original “Snowflake” dial, this dial is an uncommon colour, especially in a man’s watch. Because of its strap and case design, the “Blue Snowflake” is more of a dress watch than the other “Snowflake” variants, but the dial colour has the opposite effect. On the wrist the watch looks and feels like a lively, contemporary watch.
The entire dial is elegant and subtle in design and details. Take the power reserve for instance: the indicator is faintly shaded so that the scale darkens towards the bottom where it indicates fully wound.
While the colour is fairly novel for a Grand Seiko, the quality of the dial is typical. Every element is sharply executed and finely finished, even under magnification. Both the hands and hour markers are machined with a diamond-tipped tool, resulting in precise edges and mirrored surfaces – a quintessential Grand Seiko feature.
The date window, on the other hand, is a less important detail that captures the thought that goes into the design, as well as the quality of manufacturing. It bevelled edges with contrasting surfaces – polished on the outer edge and sandblasted on the inner edge.
The two surface finishes are not merely for aesthetics; the matte inner edge is to avoid reflections around the date numeral, while the polished outer edge serves to highlight the window and make the date display stand out.
A classic case
Unlike the Grand Seiko “Thin Dress”, for instance, which has a newly-designed case, the “Blue Snowflake” relies on a classic Grand Seiko case style that’s been in the line-up for almost two decades, having first been used for automatic Grand Seiko models. Unlike the newer case designs that have fancier styling and varied surface finishing, this case is straightforward but does everything just right – and incorporates a few details that make it better.
The case is a moderate size, at a little over 40 mm in diameter, but most crucially, it is proportioned well. The lugs are just nice in length and size, while also having tapered bevels on the outer edges for a bit of refinement – this is the details that make it better.
Another thoughtful detail is the domed, “box-type” sapphire crystal that bestows a vintage air. But it is not a unique feature, since the “box-type” sapphire is standard for Grand Seiko watches with domed crystals, regardless of case style.
Note the slight bevels on the inner edges of the lugs as well
Concluding thoughts
The “Blue Snowflake” ticks all the boxes for an excellent, everyday watch, combing a robust case in a manageable size and reliable timekeeping thanks to Spring Drive. And it is a good-looking watch with a dial finish that’s unique to Grand Seiko.
In addition, the “Blue Snowflake” also ticks all of the boxes given my personal tastes in Grand Seiko. I have always like the snowflake-pattern dial, but with only a handful of exceptions, I prefer Grand Seiko watches on straps. And I’ve always liked this particular case style; it’s is a little old fashioned but that’s the appeal.
The only thing I’d wish for is a return to the old-style Grand Seiko dials, which had both the Seiko and Grand Seiko logos – a feature that provided more vertical balance to the face of the watch. But now that Grand Seiko is its own brand, so that’s an impossibility.
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Mange aftermarked reimer som er heilt rå. Denne så meget bra ut
Skifter du over spenna hver gang? Ofte det som har irritert meg mest med aftermarked. Mismatch kasse og spenne...
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Reimen er laget og tilpasset på samme måte som originalreimen med tanke på utførelse og tilpasning til urkassen. Når det gjelder spenne, så kunne jeg velge mellom tradisjonell spenne eller såkalt deployant. Jeg valgte førstnevnte, da jeg finner det mest praktisk. Fordelen med en slik reim som www.urfolk.no her tilbyr er flere:
Kjempefornøyd.
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- Man får en reim som er laget til den modellen den skal brukes til
- Man kan spesifisere en mengde variabler og få reimen akkurat slik man vil med tanke på materielet, måltilpasninger, taper, spenne, osv.
- Utførelsen på arbeidet er profesjonelt og man får eksakt det man spesifiserer
Kjempefornøyd.
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Bruker ennå samme reima fra www.urfolk.no innimellom. Innser imidlerid etter +1,5 år at en mørk skinnreim kler urskiven best.